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Post by smooveop on Apr 13, 2012 8:29:29 GMT -5
The more I look at the Corv/Baidol/DumpShock love triangle, the more I think Corv is a seer/healer or is connected to one or both.
Corv tries to redirect DS's Baidol attack to Cythraul. DS refuses to switch targets, because he wants to confirm his vigness via another called shot that kills Baidol. Corv dislikes DS's refusal to switch targets and votes for him, nearly causing voting shenanigans.
So Baidol had to have confirmed himself to Corv somehow (seer?). Also, If DS isn'y lying, he has hit Baidol for 4 now, and still Baidol isn't dead. So he regenerates, has heals, or is really tough.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 13, 2012 8:47:13 GMT -5
Baidol is probably one of the dragons. Which one is the question. Current count: 25 of them, 7 of us
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 13, 2012 8:48:37 GMT -5
Updated the kills on our player list. They're dropping like flies. Should the cartel put some more hurt on baidol tonight while the other 8 HP hits kime?
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 13, 2012 10:02:45 GMT -5
Baidol is claiming to be rei, which I'm not sure what that is. Kime says he will vet whoever claims they are rei, so I'm thinkjg kime is a seer. We may wanna shift more firepower to baidol in this case. But that would put us out in the open. Maybe have our god make one attack on each?
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 13, 2012 10:14:08 GMT -5
Actually we should probably still kill kime today. He is the backbone of that network. He dies and people will begin to suspect each other. If he is a seer then the network will lose a huge asset.
But I get this feeling like he is just the middle man. And he is relaying messages for the real people. Why else would he be so vocal? Maybe killing those around him is best practice. Nail people that aren't him and baidol. They're both networked, but why be so loud about having powers when people aren't voting for you? They mafia baiting.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 13, 2012 10:22:59 GMT -5
Myria's powers increased. Maybe something happens to the village if kime dies? Think about it. You act as the network head. Only way you can die since network wont vote against you is for mafia to off you. In that case, wouldn't you set the head up to be the person who can give the village the most by dying? I think kime and baidol are trap hits. This just doesn't seem right. If you guys want to hit them still then that's fine, but I feel like we can probably kill 4 people tonight spreading our hits out and let kime stew
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Post by figgy on Apr 13, 2012 10:48:56 GMT -5
Based on my wiki research last night, I think it might work like this:
If you aren't a named character (Meryleep, Lang, Deis, etc.) you are a gene. If you are unactivated brood gene, you're neutral. Someone (maybe kime) has a power to activate these genes and combine them with a brood. Taya was an activated gene: The Failure Gene. Still out there, probably, is an Infinity Gene. And others.
The power might be tied to a Seer role. If the person you seer is a gene, it activates them and turns them village. That gene can then be combined with a brood. Langly told me there is a "third party" involved in the process. That could be the person who activates the gene. So it's not enough for a gene to simply contact a brood. There has to be a pretty hard network in place to build all these connections.
Kime might be the Seer. He might be a vig. He might even be fuck-all. But I think he has enough of a role that he knew a network had to be formed for the village to grow in strength. And he wasted no time in doing so. I doubt he gleaned all that on Day 1 from the wiki. His role PM likely had information about this stuff.
Even if Kime is nothing, we still stand to gain a lot by his death. Silence. People are scattered a bit now, and although there is a hard network somewhere, Kime dying will muddle some heads. I doubt it will dissolve their network, but it's certainly a huge morale hit. If Baidol dies tonight too, that's even better. Rei and whatever Kime is, dead in one night.
It looks like the vote is going well too. When you vote, guys, make sure you're giving a plausible reason. And try to vote on a smaller wagon, if not a main one. The village is relying heavily on voting records right now. Day 2 kind of hurt them, since there were very little records to go on. It's like they're behind a day.
Edit: And TRV, I think my power increasing is a balance put in place against the fact that the village is able to combine and create more powerful forms. Keep in mind we haven't seen any evidence of a major vig hit from Ryu or Teepo. What are they up to? I doubt they can also gain power by Kime or Baidol dying. Way too many bones thrown their way.
I wonder if we would have become even stronger if we didn't lose a guardian. No matter, Kime pays for that tonight! INANTP, you will be avenged!
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Post by figgy on Apr 13, 2012 10:52:52 GMT -5
Kime has contacted me for the first time. I've got to be careful here, but if I blow him off he'll think something is up: So in the Phalla, you are the only person who seems to be doing any analysis that isn't grasping or stupid, and your analysis in the past Phalla or two was nice.
I'm busy today, and it's a bit crazy, I could use some direction. What's your best analysis or guess?
(you aren't the only one I'm talking to, but I don't want to miss your opinion)
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Post by matev on Apr 13, 2012 10:59:44 GMT -5
Yah, him putting you on the spot is the last thing we could use right now. I'd say stick to what you've been saying the public thread.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 13, 2012 11:02:25 GMT -5
I get you Figgy. You make a lot of sense. I'd also say to stick with analysis you already provided, and don't stray too far from it. Ok, so we hit Kime tonight. Still want baidol, or do you guys wanna change that? I want us to have our votes confidently locked in and then if groundbreaking news comes out we can change accordingly but it doesn't seem likely
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Post by matev on Apr 13, 2012 11:08:03 GMT -5
Kime/Baidol will be sufficient for now. I have the feeling that Baidol's not going to die tonight, but we can nail him tomorrow if that's the case.
I'm tempted to come forward to the network, but false claiming a power without knowing the right mechanics would just get me gigged and then I'd be less than useless.
I'll likely save it for tomorrow, especially if Shal dies.
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Post by smooveop on Apr 13, 2012 11:21:33 GMT -5
Switched the attacks around so that Cartel hits Kime and MyriaDark hits baidol.
I think Kime is going to ask me to guard him from "Dark" tonight. There is a more than 0% chance I may have gotten myself in too far with lying about my guard powers. Now, if anyone hits Kime with a element I am supposed to be guarding my only response is "...mafia busdriver?"
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Post by smooveop on Apr 13, 2012 11:23:05 GMT -5
Also, Langly and Baidol rush to T_A's defense when I mention his inactivity. Maybe its nothing, but it happened.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 13, 2012 11:23:14 GMT -5
Good job shutting them down from looking at you, figs. I think with the way everyone is preoccupied with the three or so main points of analysis today, we should be able to slip by easily barring some giant fuckeroo
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Post by matev on Apr 13, 2012 11:27:50 GMT -5
Switched the attacks around so that Cartel hits Kime and MyriaDark hits baidol. I think Kime is going to ask me to guard him from "Dark" tonight. There is a more than 0% chance I may have gotten myself in too far with lying about my guard powers. Now, if anyone hits Kime with a element I am supposed to be guarding my only response is "...mafia busdriver?" Ah, you already claimed guard. There goes my idea. You also claim roleblocker. Then again, it shouldn't matter after tonight.
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