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Post by figgy on Apr 12, 2012 0:21:09 GMT -5
So, with Baidol, I want this to serve two purposes.
1) Have the village possibly turn on him and vote him out. Or at least get enough of a bandwagon that it might start again the next day. And when he gets voted out as village, people start looking at who swung the vote again that day. Make sure it's not us. But it's far more likely that the vote won't build. But in his defending himself he
2) sheds more doubt on kime. He's thinking to defend himself, he needs to make a case against kime to show it's smart to distrust him. He's doing exactly what we need to be doing, so we don't have to stick our neck out.
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Post by matev on Apr 12, 2012 1:38:00 GMT -5
I'm definitely in agreement with the above Figgy. Baidol, Roman, and Kime can have the spotlight accusing and defending. Hopefully they'll sway people one way or another for today. Hopefully the seers went for villagers tonight so they don't wagon another of us out.
Otherwise, play quiet and nice and jump a big wagon if it starts. If there's no wagon, stick to your initial vote pretty close. As a villager, you're principled and believe who you're voting is mafia or will help expose the mafia. Or you put up a vote for requirements and are still gathering info.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 12, 2012 8:27:30 GMT -5
I put mine in early, and I'm going to stick on it today. Figs, any reason for the three listed in the attack? Not questioning judgement, just looking for the reasoning so I can hopefully begin to understand the intricacies of this thing.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 12, 2012 8:46:30 GMT -5
We may have the ability to get a bandwagon going on blasphemer. Taya seems suspicious of him and I k ow a few others are too
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Post by figgy on Apr 12, 2012 9:28:17 GMT -5
No reason for day 3 targets. Just random picks as placeholders.
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Post by matev on Apr 12, 2012 10:53:17 GMT -5
Hrm....we might, let other people pick up on it though, don't push it too hard. Otherwise, I think we need to hammer some more people with our hits. Who though becomes the key question....
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Post by figgy on Apr 12, 2012 11:10:20 GMT -5
At the very least, TRV, you need to avoid drawing attention to yourself. That includes pushing for a bandwagon or pointing out suspicion. If I were village, I would have been analyzing your posts yesterday afternoon. Be careful talking to your friend, too. Like I said, because he's new it's easy to think he'll be naive, but he could also be far, far more paranoid because of it.
Right now, Baidol has 3 votes, then l3lasphemer69 and Farangu have 2 each. Any of those three going tonight is fine by me.
In fact, I'd rather it be one of the latter two so it will look like the "wagon" was shifted off Baidol today. Not that 3 votes is a wagon. Let's hope more people latch on to that.
One thing we need to avoid completely for now is asking about gene/conversion/brood/dragon mechanics. I think people are now aware that the mafia know little about it, and they're going to be looking for players who seem to be fishing.
As far as our hits that didn't go through: let's be very, very, very careful when soft networking. We don't know why the hits didn't go through. It could be that those people have more than 2HP. It could be that they're immune to that damage. It could be that they were guarded. It could be that the hits were bus driven onto someone else who was immune/guarded/etc. I'm not seeing any hints in the narration as to what is happening with the hits, so let's just take note of who didn't die from a hit and move on. I'm worried that the village has a good sized network and is setting traps by leaking names of people, then guarding them. Just compare the target who was hit to the person you PM'd about it, and blam-o.
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Post by shalmelo on Apr 12, 2012 11:22:02 GMT -5
Yeah, we've been overplaying our hand a little bit, both in thread and in networking, I think. Might be best to try and back off a little and just thin the herd for a day or two. Seems to be some momentum for a bunch of people that aren't us, so let's spread out our votes on a few of them and try and work the numbers back in our favor.
Gonna be pretty busy at work again today, but I should be able to be at least a little more active, hopefully.
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Post by figgy on Apr 12, 2012 11:25:23 GMT -5
DO NOT VOTE FOR l3lasphemer!
If his bandwagon picks up, it's going to look like it was an attempt to take the attention away from Baidol. We don't want to be on that wagon if that happens.
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Post by matev on Apr 12, 2012 11:25:45 GMT -5
I'm actually going to posit something crazy: There is no bus-driver.
The logic behind this is that they are not mentioned in the order of operations in the game's rules.
Let the village sheeple speculate, but as our host has been fairly clear and reliable with what's going on (Without breaking the game), I don't expect a busdriver to be running around here.
Name leaks would be smart, but I've yet to see them used in games like this. Unless the villagers are well networked with guards and such, they'll be very loath to potentially sacrifice one of their own. Besides, since they don't know who's hitting them if they don't die (At least, according to the posts listed), a guard would give them no info. You just might be a vig for all they know.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 12, 2012 11:26:22 GMT -5
Yeah I'm trying to go under the radar without looking suspiciously quiet today. I think we can do this. We may just need to pull our feelers back a bit. With inantp dead, i doubt they're knowledgable on who the other mafia people are. So we have a bit of an advantage, and can snipe people slowly while they're still confused.
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Post by matev on Apr 12, 2012 11:28:12 GMT -5
Our main goals at this point should be lying low and knocking out Kime/his "seer" to blind them further. Even if they don't see us, a hard network can form quickly if the seer looks at villagers, and that's just as bad as seeing one of us.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 12, 2012 11:31:43 GMT -5
I've already voted for him. I think changing my vote now would be a bad idea, no? Seems there may be a bit of a bandwagon forming on him which is a good thing since It's not one of us haha. Any ideas who the seer may be? What if kime is the seer and is posting that way to Throw people off? He could just be telling the real dragon to keep quiet. Seems off to me that he is flaunting his "power" so much.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 12, 2012 11:33:36 GMT -5
If we managed to kill kime, there would be a huge power/accusation vaccuum. Figgy may able to make a few accusations at that point and step into kimes network spot, as people seem To listen to him and trust his ideas for the most part.
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Post by matev on Apr 12, 2012 11:46:47 GMT -5
That would be nice, but I'm not going to call it a guarantee yet.
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