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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 11, 2012 9:42:29 GMT -5
Iiiiiiinteresting. Wonder what that would get us. But having a mafia member contact them could backfire in a huge way.
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Post by figgy on Apr 11, 2012 10:23:35 GMT -5
The OP says not to worry about someone in your network turning mafia. That can only mean it's not possible to turn mafia, right?
Langly reached out to me, but nothing of import. He said brood genes need a third party to connect to a special. Might be trying to throw a wrench at me and see what I say. Do we know what the brood genes saw as a role PM? There could be something in there being referenced to that's helping them meet up.
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Post by matev on Apr 11, 2012 11:04:41 GMT -5
Let's see what info Kime puts out now.
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Post by TheRoadVirus on Apr 11, 2012 11:09:23 GMT -5
It seems a bit odd that he is broadcasting all this info so soon, doesn't it?
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Post by figgy on Apr 11, 2012 11:11:21 GMT -5
Again, he could be goading us to attack him. Especially if he has gained a passive power that is activated when he is attacked.
What are we going to do if he calls one of us out? Cut ties?
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Post by matev on Apr 11, 2012 11:14:14 GMT -5
INANTP ....damn.
Playing the good villager at this point. This should only be a temporary loss. We definitely need to shut Kime down somehow.
Rrrrgh, not having any power other than vigs is frustrating. It limits our options for defense...
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Post by figgy on Apr 11, 2012 11:20:27 GMT -5
Welp, not much we can do to defend against that without it biting us almost immediately.
Plan? Couple of us vote in a bit? Later on? How are those vote trains analyzed?
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Post by matev on Apr 11, 2012 11:22:31 GMT -5
Depends, everyone looks at them differently.
I'm playing like I'm testing the seer. There will likely be a bandwagon on against INANTP just to confirm the seer. Fighting it will make you look suspicious. Letting a villager do it and catch a wagon for their trouble is our best defense, at least for today. It'll give us another day or so to shut them down. Hiding in the wagon is going to be our best bet, don't all jump on at once, just in case it looks like someone else will rush to his defense.
Additionally, I'm going to redirect our Kime attack. Everyone who's anything will be keeping him alive since he's the lifeline to the seer. Once again, kill everyone around him.
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Post by figgy on Apr 11, 2012 11:34:05 GMT -5
I read some more of the wiki. It looks like there are a number of morph abilities, including eventual uber dragons. Now, I can see there being a mechanic in here that lets a dragon morph into an incredibly (read: overpowered) being if he gets the right combination of people together. What makes it not overpowered is that in a group of 50 people who mistrust each other, what are the chances that 3-4 specific people find each other?
Well, when people blindly follow anything kime says and send him role information just because he asks nicely, those odds are a lot higher.
I agree that we shouldn't hit him tonight, though. He's going to be guarded. He's going to be healed (if that's a thing). Hopefully, they'll throw a seer his way tonight to confirm him, giving us a bit more breathing room. At this point, though, there's a pretty hard village network forming.
Now, INATP isn't going to be able to deflect this vote wagon, and we can't exactly try to help him without implicating ourselves later. What we can do is come up with a cover story that is believable enough to convince a few people. The goal being, have a few people come out and defend INATP so that when he dies mafia tonight, the village turns on his defenders.
What would seer information look like? Would the seer get his name and alignment? His entire role PM?
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Post by figgy on Apr 11, 2012 11:45:36 GMT -5
Actual Role: Garr A Guardian, you are a trusted servant of Myria. You fought in her wars to vanquish the brood, and now that they have come back, you must finish the job. You fought alongside Ryu in an attempt to learn more about them, but his power has scared you, and you have returned to your faith, and Myria’s care. For a cover story, I guess we can just change anything at all. The point is INATP is going to be suggesting his Seer is lying, so nothing needs to really match up to be believable. You're not going to be convincing the Seer anyway. How about this: Wynn You are the youngest female quadruplet from Wyndia who just looooooves Hide and Seek. You can "hide" from an attack, but it takes two days to recharge this ability. Find Ryu or Teepo for a special surprise!
HP: 2
Win Condition: Defeat Myria and her allies, and any other threats to the Brood
Play it like this: You're village, so whoever the Seer is must be lying. Ask to be given one day to prove yourself. If you hide tonight and someone attacks you, it will show in the narration (as clarified by the host*) that Wynn escaped an attack. I doubt it's going to take the vote off you, but it could be enough for a few people to come out and speak on your behalf. What do you think?
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Post by matev on Apr 11, 2012 11:47:39 GMT -5
Likely it would be role name and alignment, at the most.
Otherwise, Kime admitted to being hit hard, so we know we did get him. Honestly, should've thrown more at him in hindsight....
In HP based games, 1 or 2 healers aren't uncommon. If we can snuff them out, that will make our lives much easier.
The problem now is if we don't hit Kime tonight and INANTP dies mafia, he's going to be guarded out the wazoo until they find someone better. I know there's a way we can knock him out of the game, but the how is eluding me.
Beautiful Figgy, let's run with it!
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Post by figgy on Apr 11, 2012 11:49:46 GMT -5
I like how blindly people follow kime.
Kime: "This is how you are supposed to play phalla, guys." Others: "Oh, my bad. Here you go, kime!"
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Post by matev on Apr 11, 2012 11:57:30 GMT -5
It's foolish of them to do so. For all they know, Kime is an SK or other manner of non-village aligned that's leading them astray...
People like scraps of info to cling to, and he's given them one.
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Post by figgy on Apr 11, 2012 12:16:28 GMT -5
Assuran: Thanks for the guard last night, whoever guarded me. I was attacked by a "Dark Attack" that still dealt one point of damage through your guard.
Two possibilities:
1) We now know that guards only partially block attacks. Assuran was targeted by the village (or SK) and survived. Likely has 1 HP left. 2) Assuran is feeding false info to confuse about how guard mechanics work.
Probably the former.
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Post by matev on Apr 11, 2012 12:20:41 GMT -5
I read that too, and that combined with Kime's talk tempts me to order an all out attack on him to silence him, but I know it would be fruitless...
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